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		<title>By: Dee Carson</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=570&#038;cpage=1#comment-5110</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keen:

It&#039;s really nice to see the recommendations that others have posted about Eve University.  I started playing Eve (my first MMOG) a little over a year ago and have graduated from student to director at the Uni.

Convo me in game, drop by our Headquarters in Korsiki or join channel &quot;EVE UNIVERSITY&quot;.  Always glad to help out, answer questions or whatever else we can do to help new pilots get a strong start.

Regards,
Dee Carson
Mining Director
Eve University
http://deecarson.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keen:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really nice to see the recommendations that others have posted about Eve University.  I started playing Eve (my first MMOG) a little over a year ago and have graduated from student to director at the Uni.</p>
<p>Convo me in game, drop by our Headquarters in Korsiki or join channel &#8220;EVE UNIVERSITY&#8221;.  Always glad to help out, answer questions or whatever else we can do to help new pilots get a strong start.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Dee Carson<br />
Mining Director<br />
Eve University<br />
<a href="http://deecarson.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://deecarson.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Swift Voyager</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=570&#038;cpage=1#comment-5065</link>
		<dc:creator>Swift Voyager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been playing Eve for nearly a year now, and I&#039;m still learning things.

Eve is like an onion. There are many layers of the game that you just can&#039;t experience till you&#039;re older, and that&#039;s a good thing. It keeps the game fresh for veteran players who want new experiences. The downside of this is that all those extra bits will overwhelm the average trial player. When you first start Eve, it&#039;s important to have someone tell you what you should be spending your time on as a new player. It&#039;s not like some MMO&#039;s where the gameplay is rigidly linear. In Eve, there&#039;s nothing stopping you from doing something you&#039;re not ready for (It&#039;s actually kinda exciting the first few times you get yourself blown up and lose days worth of equipment).

I&#039;m usually online in the evenings US time. If you have some questions, feel free to send me a convo ingame. Once you have a text convo, it&#039;s super easy to start an Eve Voice session too. (if you haven&#039;t tried it yet, Eve voice works great and is free since the Trinity patch)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been playing Eve for nearly a year now, and I&#8217;m still learning things.</p>
<p>Eve is like an onion. There are many layers of the game that you just can&#8217;t experience till you&#8217;re older, and that&#8217;s a good thing. It keeps the game fresh for veteran players who want new experiences. The downside of this is that all those extra bits will overwhelm the average trial player. When you first start Eve, it&#8217;s important to have someone tell you what you should be spending your time on as a new player. It&#8217;s not like some MMO&#8217;s where the gameplay is rigidly linear. In Eve, there&#8217;s nothing stopping you from doing something you&#8217;re not ready for (It&#8217;s actually kinda exciting the first few times you get yourself blown up and lose days worth of equipment).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m usually online in the evenings US time. If you have some questions, feel free to send me a convo ingame. Once you have a text convo, it&#8217;s super easy to start an Eve Voice session too. (if you haven&#8217;t tried it yet, Eve voice works great and is free since the Trinity patch)</p>
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		<title>By: Eve Blog Links</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=570&#038;cpage=1#comment-4975</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve Blog Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 10:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Keen and Graev are trying out Eve for the first time and you can read their experiences over at the Keen and Graev gaming blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Keen and Graev are trying out Eve for the first time and you can read their experiences over at the Keen and Graev gaming blog. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Morphisat</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=570&#038;cpage=1#comment-4974</link>
		<dc:creator>Morphisat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 09:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great that you&#039;re trying Eve :). The complexity is part of the fun. What fun is it to discover everything about a game in just a few days /played ? 

This is nice to read as it was more than 2 years ago I started and am already so familiar with the game ! The tutorials should be better now, I think they also improved them with the last expansion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great that you&#8217;re trying Eve <img src='http://www.keenandgraev.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . The complexity is part of the fun. What fun is it to discover everything about a game in just a few days /played ? </p>
<p>This is nice to read as it was more than 2 years ago I started and am already so familiar with the game ! The tutorials should be better now, I think they also improved them with the last expansion.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=570&#038;cpage=1#comment-4966</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I played Eve during the beta, and it didn&#039;t stick with me, partially because I was heavy into DAoC at the time.

I tried it again a year ago, and I was lucky enough to fall in with the Eve University corporation. I can&#039;t second Sollaires strongly enough; without Eve University, I would have missed 75% of what makes Eve a good game. If you become active with the corp, the classes, mining operations or hunting ore thieves, or maybe an excursion into lowsec or 0.0 space, you&#039;ll see a side of the game that a lot of people miss entirely when they try to figure things out for 14 days on their own.

Inhibitor is correct, E-Uni is definitely the most helpful organization I&#039;ve encountered in any mmorpg.

Fly safe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I played Eve during the beta, and it didn&#8217;t stick with me, partially because I was heavy into DAoC at the time.</p>
<p>I tried it again a year ago, and I was lucky enough to fall in with the Eve University corporation. I can&#8217;t second Sollaires strongly enough; without Eve University, I would have missed 75% of what makes Eve a good game. If you become active with the corp, the classes, mining operations or hunting ore thieves, or maybe an excursion into lowsec or 0.0 space, you&#8217;ll see a side of the game that a lot of people miss entirely when they try to figure things out for 14 days on their own.</p>
<p>Inhibitor is correct, E-Uni is definitely the most helpful organization I&#8217;ve encountered in any mmorpg.</p>
<p>Fly safe!</p>
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		<title>By: Inhibitor</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=570&#038;cpage=1#comment-4960</link>
		<dc:creator>Inhibitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dammit Keen...I&#039;ve been toying with the idea of reupping Eve, and you&#039;re making me want to. I&#039;m actually not in a game at the moment (which, what with blogging and everything else, probably isn&#039;t that bad of a thing), but I&#039;ll be getting into something again soon or I&#039;ll go nuts.

I second the recommendation on Eve University. I actually joined them last time I played Eve (including with original character that was rolled back in 2005), and you won&#039;t find a more helpful group of people in any MMO.

It really is a great game, but I find myself drifting to and from it every few months for some reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dammit Keen&#8230;I&#8217;ve been toying with the idea of reupping Eve, and you&#8217;re making me want to. I&#8217;m actually not in a game at the moment (which, what with blogging and everything else, probably isn&#8217;t that bad of a thing), but I&#8217;ll be getting into something again soon or I&#8217;ll go nuts.</p>
<p>I second the recommendation on Eve University. I actually joined them last time I played Eve (including with original character that was rolled back in 2005), and you won&#8217;t find a more helpful group of people in any MMO.</p>
<p>It really is a great game, but I find myself drifting to and from it every few months for some reason.</p>
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		<title>By: CrazyKinux</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=570&#038;cpage=1#comment-4950</link>
		<dc:creator>CrazyKinux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be the first to admit that EVE isn&#039;t simple and that the learning curve is quite steep. Having said that, if you give yourselves some time, and ask for help when needed, you&#039;ll soon realize the tremendous potential of the game and how much you can accomplish.

If you&#039;re looking for information, I&#039;ve put together a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crazykinux.com/2007/10/10-sites-for-every-new-eve-online.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;list&lt;/a&gt; of sites that should help you ease yourself into this complex MMO.

Fly safe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be the first to admit that EVE isn&#8217;t simple and that the learning curve is quite steep. Having said that, if you give yourselves some time, and ask for help when needed, you&#8217;ll soon realize the tremendous potential of the game and how much you can accomplish.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for information, I&#8217;ve put together a <a href="http://www.crazykinux.com/2007/10/10-sites-for-every-new-eve-online.html" rel="nofollow">list</a> of sites that should help you ease yourself into this complex MMO.</p>
<p>Fly safe!</p>
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		<title>By: Keen</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=570&#038;cpage=1#comment-4942</link>
		<dc:creator>Keen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great info!  Thanks sollaires</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great info!  Thanks sollaires</p>
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		<title>By: sollaires</title>
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		<dc:creator>sollaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EVE&#039;s learning cliff is a little ridiculous.  The tutorials really don&#039;t give you very much useful information and don&#039;t give you any real objectives.  It doesn&#039;t even tell you much about what kinds of objectives there are.

With that said, it can be pretty cool once you figure out what there is to do.  I highly recommend looking up and joining the Eve University corporation (I&#039;m still in it a couple months after starting the game).  There are a lot of helpful people in the corp that usually answer questions in corp chat as well as running classes on a variety of topics (from mining to mission running to fleet PvP).

I think at the very beginning of the game, it&#039;s useful to pick whether you want to do PVE combat (it&#039;s pretty fun working your way through the various missions and difficulty levels), mining/production (mining is tedious but can be zen-inducing), or PVP (a duo of pirates in frigates or cruisers might be able to eke out a living, but it would hard - finding a corp might be doable, but it would be hard as brand new players).

Working your way up the ship levels is an easy start to figuring out if you like what you&#039;re doing (for PVE missioning, fly your frigate, work towards a cruiser, then battlecruiser, etc).  Try to read up on what your character is capable of (as a Gallente, for example, you&#039;d want to focus on drone or gunnery/hybrid weapons skills to do more damage as well as mechanic/armor skills to shore up your defenses) and focus on those skills to begin with.  As a miner, skills would be in industry and science for getting more ore as well as better refining rates.

What started out as a quick response is quickly getting bloated.  It&#039;s sort of unavoidable as a new pilot in Eve.

http://hammer-eve.blogspot.com/ is the last thing I&#039;ll point you if you haven&#039;t yet seen it, aside from Eve University.  Or send a message to Bellatroix and I&#039;d be happy to give you some starting advice. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EVE&#8217;s learning cliff is a little ridiculous.  The tutorials really don&#8217;t give you very much useful information and don&#8217;t give you any real objectives.  It doesn&#8217;t even tell you much about what kinds of objectives there are.</p>
<p>With that said, it can be pretty cool once you figure out what there is to do.  I highly recommend looking up and joining the Eve University corporation (I&#8217;m still in it a couple months after starting the game).  There are a lot of helpful people in the corp that usually answer questions in corp chat as well as running classes on a variety of topics (from mining to mission running to fleet PvP).</p>
<p>I think at the very beginning of the game, it&#8217;s useful to pick whether you want to do PVE combat (it&#8217;s pretty fun working your way through the various missions and difficulty levels), mining/production (mining is tedious but can be zen-inducing), or PVP (a duo of pirates in frigates or cruisers might be able to eke out a living, but it would hard &#8211; finding a corp might be doable, but it would be hard as brand new players).</p>
<p>Working your way up the ship levels is an easy start to figuring out if you like what you&#8217;re doing (for PVE missioning, fly your frigate, work towards a cruiser, then battlecruiser, etc).  Try to read up on what your character is capable of (as a Gallente, for example, you&#8217;d want to focus on drone or gunnery/hybrid weapons skills to do more damage as well as mechanic/armor skills to shore up your defenses) and focus on those skills to begin with.  As a miner, skills would be in industry and science for getting more ore as well as better refining rates.</p>
<p>What started out as a quick response is quickly getting bloated.  It&#8217;s sort of unavoidable as a new pilot in Eve.</p>
<p><a href="http://hammer-eve.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://hammer-eve.blogspot.com/</a> is the last thing I&#8217;ll point you if you haven&#8217;t yet seen it, aside from Eve University.  Or send a message to Bellatroix and I&#8217;d be happy to give you some starting advice. <img src='http://www.keenandgraev.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Keen</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=570&#038;cpage=1#comment-4939</link>
		<dc:creator>Keen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We tried the splitting thing and nothing happened when we clicked the link.  I&#039;m thinking it might be because we were doing lower level missions.  We&#039;ll give it another shot next time we play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We tried the splitting thing and nothing happened when we clicked the link.  I&#8217;m thinking it might be because we were doing lower level missions.  We&#8217;ll give it another shot next time we play.</p>
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