Comments on: Bringing you up to speed on Allods Online’s Launch Debacle http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575 Keen and Graev bring you their latest PC/Console views, Online Adventures, and more from a unique and refreshing perspective. Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:41:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: The Curious Case of the “F2P” MMORPG Allods Online http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575&cpage=3#comment-170043 The Curious Case of the “F2P” MMORPG Allods Online Sun, 02 May 2010 20:28:01 +0000 http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575#comment-170043 [...] of Item Shop virtual goods and the changes announced for version 1.0.07.07. Keen has written an excellent summary of the concerns of the [...] [...] of Item Shop virtual goods and the changes announced for version 1.0.07.07. Keen has written an excellent summary of the concerns of the [...]

]]> By: Vajto http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575&cpage=3#comment-147356 Vajto Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:05:45 +0000 http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575#comment-147356 Hi , Im playing warden on the russian realms myself and after reading your post i see that theres some information you missed , i hope this can ezplain the situation for you. ( hope noone wrote this above ) Allods online became a huge succe ! Gold ! ANd lots of people started playing it all 6 realms were about 90+ % allways, but mail.ru saw that most players on allods did come from mail.ru's other games and they were loosing money on it as they earned more money having people playing all the games. So here the game came to a change , Mail.ru bought Allods Online and the main director of the game and the KEY crew more or less left the game to continue with their other projekt they didnt want to be part of waht mail.ru was gonna do. Mail ru started MAKING people HAVE TO pay to PLAY becouse they knew the people who didnt wanna play allods would play the games they came from which are mostly owned by mail.ru. And mail.ru is jsut out to earn money and right now are ruining the game , dont answer to the BETA TESTERS and have no idea of what is happening on the forums. Russian players migrate in loads , my guild chose to migrate to the EU today even when restarting evrything is worth it and we are hoping that Gpotato will prevail. I hope this post gave you some insight ... i know its on the bottom ( N132 ) But if people are interested they scroll =) ) - Vajto soon on eu realm Hi , Im playing warden on the russian realms myself and after reading your post i see that theres some information you missed , i hope this can ezplain the situation for you. ( hope noone wrote this above )

Allods online became a huge succe ! Gold ! ANd lots of people started playing it all 6 realms were about 90+ % allways, but mail.ru saw that most players on allods did come from mail.ru’s other games and they were loosing money on it as they earned more money having people playing all the games. So here the game came to a change , Mail.ru bought Allods Online and the main director of the game and the KEY crew more or less left the game to continue with their other projekt they didnt want to be part of waht mail.ru was gonna do. Mail ru started MAKING people HAVE TO pay to PLAY becouse they knew the people who didnt wanna play allods would play the games they came from which are mostly owned by mail.ru. And mail.ru is jsut out to earn money and right now are ruining the game , dont answer to the BETA TESTERS and have no idea of what is happening on the forums. Russian players migrate in loads , my guild chose to migrate to the EU today even when restarting evrything is worth it and we are hoping that Gpotato will prevail. I hope this post gave you some insight … i know its on the bottom ( N132 ) But if people are interested they scroll =) )

- Vajto soon on eu realm

]]> By: Trust Is Such A Fickle Thing http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575&cpage=3#comment-147331 Trust Is Such A Fickle Thing Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:00:28 +0000 http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575#comment-147331 [...] the storm that the players of Allods Online stirred up on the official forums and blogs across the Internet. Darren Allarde, associate producer for the game at gPotato, even went on Massively Speaking to [...] [...] the storm that the players of Allods Online stirred up on the official forums and blogs across the Internet. Darren Allarde, associate producer for the game at gPotato, even went on Massively Speaking to [...]

]]> By: Crud http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575&cpage=3#comment-145784 Crud Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:41:00 +0000 http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575#comment-145784 Wish Aeria games had taken the contract instead of failpotato. Aeria is not very friendly with cashshop pricing, but atleast not crazy either. Wouldnt be the first great game for potato to destroy :( Wish Aeria games had taken the contract instead of failpotato. Aeria is not very friendly with cashshop pricing, but atleast not crazy either. Wouldnt be the first great game for potato to destroy :(

]]> By: Dblade http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575&cpage=3#comment-145165 Dblade Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:58:30 +0000 http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575#comment-145165 http://www.massively.com/2010/02/23/allods-online-releases-updated-statement-solicits-player-input/ Looks like they have started to realize problems are brewing. http://www.massively.com/2010/02/23/allods-online-releases-updated-statement-solicits-player-input/

Looks like they have started to realize problems are brewing.

]]> By: Howdy Doody http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575&cpage=3#comment-145164 Howdy Doody Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:54:42 +0000 http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575#comment-145164 Holy smokes, I didn't see this coming. I just CAN'T understand their thinking. I'm trying to be open minded and see their side, but I just can't. WTH would you not want to start the community off slow and get them used to transactions. Like Xbox Live or Battleforge. Make it so it's so damn easy to keep buying in small doses that it snow balls. I just don't get it....at all. First time ever I am so thankful I had no interest in this game. Sorry for all you all that like it. That really sucks. wow...just fascinating. I'm still dumbfounded. Holy smokes, I didn’t see this coming. I just CAN’T understand their thinking. I’m trying to be open minded and see their side, but I just can’t.

WTH would you not want to start the community off slow and get them used to transactions. Like Xbox Live or Battleforge. Make it so it’s so damn easy to keep buying in small doses that it snow balls. I just don’t get it….at all.

First time ever I am so thankful I had no interest in this game. Sorry for all you all that like it. That really sucks.

wow…just fascinating. I’m still dumbfounded.

]]> By: Game by Night » Come on, we’re overreacting about Allod’s http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575&cpage=3#comment-145161 Game by Night » Come on, we’re overreacting about Allod’s Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:47:47 +0000 http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575#comment-145161 [...] we’ve had in the last year. After reading the masses of posts, some in favor, some against, I have to toss my own two cents in the [...] [...] we’ve had in the last year. After reading the masses of posts, some in favor, some against, I have to toss my own two cents in the [...]

]]> By: Seboid http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575&cpage=3#comment-145148 Seboid Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:49:05 +0000 http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575#comment-145148 It's gone way past the cash shop prices now (seriously, how on earth could such pricing ever have been thought as acceptable). It's obvious to anyone that looks that the game itself is changing rapidly to force people to the cash shop. It really is one big cluster****. The infamous suits have got a hold of Allods by its dangly bits and are squeezing with all their might. In my opinion, Allods has been damaged beyond repair for a lot of people who were following it. Maybe in the coming weeks/months they'll get customers that stumble upon it, but for me it's simply way too risky an MMO to get invested in. It’s gone way past the cash shop prices now (seriously, how on earth could such pricing ever have been thought as acceptable). It’s obvious to anyone that looks that the game itself is changing rapidly to force people to the cash shop. It really is one big cluster****. The infamous suits have got a hold of Allods by its dangly bits and are squeezing with all their might. In my opinion, Allods has been damaged beyond repair for a lot of people who were following it. Maybe in the coming weeks/months they’ll get customers that stumble upon it, but for me it’s simply way too risky an MMO to get invested in.

]]> By: Arnzen http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575&cpage=3#comment-145141 Arnzen Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:07:55 +0000 http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575#comment-145141 Yep, that's exactly the crux of the issue Nollind, and why the outrage is what it is. Ridiculous prices for bags, bank space, and mounts aside, unless FoD gets completely revamped to not "force" players into buying perfume in bulk at price points they aren't comfortable with, this game is in serious trouble... Yep, that’s exactly the crux of the issue Nollind, and why the outrage is what it is. Ridiculous prices for bags, bank space, and mounts aside, unless FoD gets completely revamped to not “force” players into buying perfume in bulk at price points they aren’t comfortable with, this game is in serious trouble…

]]> By: Nollind Whachell http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575&cpage=3#comment-145114 Nollind Whachell Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:34:01 +0000 http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=3575#comment-145114 <em>"When a friend starts to take the wrong path you don’t stab them and betray them."</em> David that's just it. Many of us feel like we have been stabbed in the back and betrayed. So who's doing who wrong here? All we're doing is communicating the fact that we have a knife sticking out of our backs. It's up to the company to pull it out and tend the wound to address their wrong doings. And Arnzen is absolutely right about the FoD. <strong>It gives you no choice</strong> but to utilize perfume (even more so with the russian patch notes). That goes against the cash shop approach. For example, I can live without a mount, extra bags, potions, whatever because they provide bonuses. Perfumes for FoD on the other hand remove a game stopping debuff. There is no option here. It's essential to play the game. Thus either remove it or reduce it so that it does become optional (i.e. 15 min time max). “When a friend starts to take the wrong path you don’t stab them and betray them.”

David that’s just it. Many of us feel like we have been stabbed in the back and betrayed. So who’s doing who wrong here? All we’re doing is communicating the fact that we have a knife sticking out of our backs. It’s up to the company to pull it out and tend the wound to address their wrong doings.

And Arnzen is absolutely right about the FoD. It gives you no choice but to utilize perfume (even more so with the russian patch notes). That goes against the cash shop approach. For example, I can live without a mount, extra bags, potions, whatever because they provide bonuses. Perfumes for FoD on the other hand remove a game stopping debuff. There is no option here. It’s essential to play the game. Thus either remove it or reduce it so that it does become optional (i.e. 15 min time max).

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