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		<title>By: A Week with Warhammer at Kill Ten Rats</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1440&#038;cpage=2#comment-23297</link>
		<dc:creator>A Week with Warhammer at Kill Ten Rats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been a stable, relatively low-bug MMORPG beta. I can point to assorted irritations, but they are minor, assuming nothing else breaks with fixing the last major problems. The game is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rog</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1440&#038;cpage=2#comment-23280</link>
		<dc:creator>Rog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like some of the animations have been changed / improved with the patch. A little at a time I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like some of the animations have been changed / improved with the patch. A little at a time I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Keen</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1440&#038;cpage=2#comment-23206</link>
		<dc:creator>Keen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it is good to go.  They fixed the target not attackable (99% of it anyway).  I&#039;ll be making a post tomorrow with what I want to see fixed before they release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is good to go.  They fixed the target not attackable (99% of it anyway).  I&#8217;ll be making a post tomorrow with what I want to see fixed before they release.</p>
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		<title>By: stompfoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>stompfoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Question:
It&#039;s less than a week from release, is this good to go? Are all these issues able to be resolved before next week? (...miracle patch incoming...) or are they planning to release knowing that they have some serious issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Question:<br />
It&#8217;s less than a week from release, is this good to go? Are all these issues able to be resolved before next week? (&#8230;miracle patch incoming&#8230;) or are they planning to release knowing that they have some serious issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Elspath</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1440&#038;cpage=2#comment-23161</link>
		<dc:creator>Elspath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fugazi,  that splattering of brown on brown with brown rocks was a bad example :P  and the low end texturs,  ugly trees and compleate little to no grass is the point im making.   trees are ok but as for leafe details i think they kind of suck but there preaty unique...   On astetick look though none of those points are &quot;better&quot;  then wow  *shrugs*   if you go in to elwyn forest or whatever its named,   thats awe inspiring and looks lovely all over.   Havent seen anything thats &quot;awe&quot;  inspiring in wow  from graphices</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fugazi,  that splattering of brown on brown with brown rocks was a bad example <img src='http://www.keenandgraev.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />   and the low end texturs,  ugly trees and compleate little to no grass is the point im making.   trees are ok but as for leafe details i think they kind of suck but there preaty unique&#8230;   On astetick look though none of those points are &#8220;better&#8221;  then wow  *shrugs*   if you go in to elwyn forest or whatever its named,   thats awe inspiring and looks lovely all over.   Havent seen anything thats &#8220;awe&#8221;  inspiring in wow  from graphices</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Andre</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1440&#038;cpage=2#comment-23155</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Andre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bletnuk..

Ehm, actually we can!
When it comes to content, bugs etc.. Of course we can&#039;t compare it with a game that has been around for three years, got one expansion and soon is getting another one.


But when it comes to the visuals, animations and sound it should almost benefit Warhammer and not World of Warcraft.
A game being release three years later than another, and WoW didn&#039;t even have that great visuals compared with other games in 2005, then we should be able to expect Warhammer to at least be as good, not to mention better than World of Warcraft. Three years is a long time in the world of technology. We have got much more powerful systems, new technology allowing better and easier implementation of better  visuals in games etc..

There is no reason for Warhammer Online standing weaker compared to World of Warcraft when it comes to the visual part, the animations and the sound effects! In fact, when being release three years later we should allow ourself to expect and almost demand it to be better!

The visuals are something not changing much in a mmo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bletnuk..</p>
<p>Ehm, actually we can!<br />
When it comes to content, bugs etc.. Of course we can&#8217;t compare it with a game that has been around for three years, got one expansion and soon is getting another one.</p>
<p>But when it comes to the visuals, animations and sound it should almost benefit Warhammer and not World of Warcraft.<br />
A game being release three years later than another, and WoW didn&#8217;t even have that great visuals compared with other games in 2005, then we should be able to expect Warhammer to at least be as good, not to mention better than World of Warcraft. Three years is a long time in the world of technology. We have got much more powerful systems, new technology allowing better and easier implementation of better  visuals in games etc..</p>
<p>There is no reason for Warhammer Online standing weaker compared to World of Warcraft when it comes to the visual part, the animations and the sound effects! In fact, when being release three years later we should allow ourself to expect and almost demand it to be better!</p>
<p>The visuals are something not changing much in a mmo.</p>
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		<title>By: Bletnuk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bletnuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very disappointed with everyone comparing WoW to WAR.  You cannot compare a game that hasn&#039;t been released to a game that&#039;s been polished and worked on for years now.  It&#039;s not objective.  I can remember the first year of WoW having many problems, balance issues, lag, the list goes on.  Yet they&#039;ve been releasing patches, expansions for over 3 years now to constantly refine their game. Noone can or should expect WAR to be as smooth and refined as any game that&#039;s been around awhile, its unrealistic.  

Personally I think WAR will stand on its own and offers plenty of difference in gameplay to be seperated from WoW and not compared alongside.  Even AoC, which I left after a month due to bugs and lack of content seems to be cconstantly refining, adding, and polishing their game.  It all takes time and expecting or comparing based on Open Beta results just doesn&#039;t seem right to me.  Took me over a year to fully start enjoying WoW, a year to enjoy, and than a year to have it grow old.

Staying optimistic and open but not getting my hopes up too high like I have for other games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very disappointed with everyone comparing WoW to WAR.  You cannot compare a game that hasn&#8217;t been released to a game that&#8217;s been polished and worked on for years now.  It&#8217;s not objective.  I can remember the first year of WoW having many problems, balance issues, lag, the list goes on.  Yet they&#8217;ve been releasing patches, expansions for over 3 years now to constantly refine their game. Noone can or should expect WAR to be as smooth and refined as any game that&#8217;s been around awhile, its unrealistic.  </p>
<p>Personally I think WAR will stand on its own and offers plenty of difference in gameplay to be seperated from WoW and not compared alongside.  Even AoC, which I left after a month due to bugs and lack of content seems to be cconstantly refining, adding, and polishing their game.  It all takes time and expecting or comparing based on Open Beta results just doesn&#8217;t seem right to me.  Took me over a year to fully start enjoying WoW, a year to enjoy, and than a year to have it grow old.</p>
<p>Staying optimistic and open but not getting my hopes up too high like I have for other games.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Gusto</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1440&#038;cpage=2#comment-23144</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Gusto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well for those with performance issues I went under my nvidia settings and changed Image Setting to High Performance, it was set for High Quality and this seemed to help a good deal.  A bit hard to say since I have yet to get into an RVR setting with as many folks as that time I was having the awful lag....game settings are on balance.

Anyone else try this?  The thing that frustrates me is that I can run WoW full blown and I agree with some here that WoW at full blown looks better the WAR.  But even if you think WAR looks better it&#039;s certainly not leaps and bounds so performance should be very, very smooth and these animations *shrugs*

Of course the general idea of WAR is really fun and exciting so let us pray to Sigmar that they can polish, polish, polish...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well for those with performance issues I went under my nvidia settings and changed Image Setting to High Performance, it was set for High Quality and this seemed to help a good deal.  A bit hard to say since I have yet to get into an RVR setting with as many folks as that time I was having the awful lag&#8230;.game settings are on balance.</p>
<p>Anyone else try this?  The thing that frustrates me is that I can run WoW full blown and I agree with some here that WoW at full blown looks better the WAR.  But even if you think WAR looks better it&#8217;s certainly not leaps and bounds so performance should be very, very smooth and these animations *shrugs*</p>
<p>Of course the general idea of WAR is really fun and exciting so let us pray to Sigmar that they can polish, polish, polish&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Warhammer Briefs at Kill Ten Rats</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1440&#038;cpage=2#comment-23139</link>
		<dc:creator>Warhammer Briefs at Kill Ten Rats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Online is not without its flaws.   Keenhas a list of bugs that have been irking him during the Open Beta, and I don&#8217;t disagree, but [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fugazi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fugazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*AF and level of detail (animations on distance are cut/not shown too)</description>
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