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		<title>By: TF2 Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1102&#038;cpage=1#comment-15714</link>
		<dc:creator>TF2 Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great video! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great video! <img src='http://www.keenandgraev.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Da Newz - June 26 &#171; Waaagh! A Warhammer Online Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1102&#038;cpage=1#comment-15312</link>
		<dc:creator>Da Newz - June 26 &#171; Waaagh! A Warhammer Online Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Keen has the G4 Warhammer clip, along with some lite commentary. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Openedge1</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1102&#038;cpage=1#comment-15222</link>
		<dc:creator>Openedge1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent more time watching Paul look at Morgan&#039;s boobs than his commentary..

I mean these guys are chumps. 

Jeff
&quot;Something new and exciting&quot;

Cutaway to video

&quot;Killed 8/10 Trolls&quot;

That&#039;s new!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent more time watching Paul look at Morgan&#8217;s boobs than his commentary..</p>
<p>I mean these guys are chumps. </p>
<p>Jeff<br />
&#8220;Something new and exciting&#8221;</p>
<p>Cutaway to video</p>
<p>&#8220;Killed 8/10 Trolls&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s new!</p>
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		<title>By: foobar</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1102&#038;cpage=1#comment-15126</link>
		<dc:creator>foobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We took the death penalty away. We took item wear away. Why don&#039;t we just stop trying to make a world, and just make a game instead...&quot;

Famous last words!

After hearing this, I am already done with WAR. I hope you have fun with it, but I can&#039;t live another disappointment out of a MMO launch!

Neeext...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We took the death penalty away. We took item wear away. Why don&#8217;t we just stop trying to make a world, and just make a game instead&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Famous last words!</p>
<p>After hearing this, I am already done with WAR. I hope you have fun with it, but I can&#8217;t live another disappointment out of a MMO launch!</p>
<p>Neeext&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Drakorn</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1102&#038;cpage=1#comment-14948</link>
		<dc:creator>Drakorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparing WoW&#039;s PvP to WAR&#039;s PvP is like comparing a game of Tecmo Bowl to a game of Madden NFL 08. &quot;Madden is such a clone of Tecmo Bowl! It uses the same type field, the same type ball and everything!!!1!!&quot;
It&#039;s just sad to see someone who actually believes that since WoW is bigger, that means it&#039;s better. Maybe you should take time out from your busy six days a week of hard core raiding Karazan and try something different. You might actually realize that you&#039;ve been blindly following a game that most people have already discovered isn&#039;t the end all be all.
WoW is the game that brought MMORPGs into the mainstream. Nothing about it is groundbreaking or unique any more. It&#039;s a lot like a bike with training wheels. When you first started riding a bike you didn&#039;t want to ever use anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing WoW&#8217;s PvP to WAR&#8217;s PvP is like comparing a game of Tecmo Bowl to a game of Madden NFL 08. &#8220;Madden is such a clone of Tecmo Bowl! It uses the same type field, the same type ball and everything!!!1!!&#8221;<br />
It&#8217;s just sad to see someone who actually believes that since WoW is bigger, that means it&#8217;s better. Maybe you should take time out from your busy six days a week of hard core raiding Karazan and try something different. You might actually realize that you&#8217;ve been blindly following a game that most people have already discovered isn&#8217;t the end all be all.<br />
WoW is the game that brought MMORPGs into the mainstream. Nothing about it is groundbreaking or unique any more. It&#8217;s a lot like a bike with training wheels. When you first started riding a bike you didn&#8217;t want to ever use anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Bildo</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1102&#038;cpage=1#comment-14890</link>
		<dc:creator>Bildo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dekun:

You definitely are wrong.  That&#039;s all I&#039;ll say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dekun:</p>
<p>You definitely are wrong.  That&#8217;s all I&#8217;ll say.</p>
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		<title>By: neilyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>neilyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;WoW = PvE Raiding and PvP e-ports&quot;

wow is a joke of an esport, mmos will never be an esport, sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;WoW = PvE Raiding and PvP e-ports&#8221;</p>
<p>wow is a joke of an esport, mmos will never be an esport, sorry</p>
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		<title>By: Jadawin</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1102&#038;cpage=1#comment-14885</link>
		<dc:creator>Jadawin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot &quot;Mark Jacobs- the guy who led the team that made the game whose PvP (RvR) was ten times more entertaining than WoW&#039;s&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot &#8220;Mark Jacobs- the guy who led the team that made the game whose PvP (RvR) was ten times more entertaining than WoW&#8217;s&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dekun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dekun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quotes that stood out:
Jeff and Paul: “We have everything you would expect from a MMO; The greatest hits.”

You actually fell for that?  Come on now, I thought you were smarter than that.  The only reason I read this blog is because you seem somewhat intelligent.

Ok, so here is the real deal.  As much as it is flame bate, its also true to an extent; WAR is a WoW clone. (as emo fanbois around the world begin cry)

WoW = PvE Raiding and PvP e-ports
WAR = PvP Zerging and Selfishness

To understand the game design you have to understand the designer.  Mark Jacobs...  Hes the guy in WoW bitching about never being able to find a group.  Hes the guy bitching about better geared players being overpowered.  Hes the guy who spends as much time in game as the hardcore raiders, but is unable to get in with a good raiding guild due to his selfish personality.

Mark Jacobs, the guy who acts like a think skinned immature little sissy on random fan site forums being unprofessional, playing favorites, and flaming potential customers.  The same guy who refuses to open an official warhammer forum because he doesn&#039;t want to deal with unhappy subscribers...

Ironic?

I honestly hope I&#039;m wrong, the genre needs some fresh air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quotes that stood out:<br />
Jeff and Paul: “We have everything you would expect from a MMO; The greatest hits.”</p>
<p>You actually fell for that?  Come on now, I thought you were smarter than that.  The only reason I read this blog is because you seem somewhat intelligent.</p>
<p>Ok, so here is the real deal.  As much as it is flame bate, its also true to an extent; WAR is a WoW clone. (as emo fanbois around the world begin cry)</p>
<p>WoW = PvE Raiding and PvP e-ports<br />
WAR = PvP Zerging and Selfishness</p>
<p>To understand the game design you have to understand the designer.  Mark Jacobs&#8230;  Hes the guy in WoW bitching about never being able to find a group.  Hes the guy bitching about better geared players being overpowered.  Hes the guy who spends as much time in game as the hardcore raiders, but is unable to get in with a good raiding guild due to his selfish personality.</p>
<p>Mark Jacobs, the guy who acts like a think skinned immature little sissy on random fan site forums being unprofessional, playing favorites, and flaming potential customers.  The same guy who refuses to open an official warhammer forum because he doesn&#8217;t want to deal with unhappy subscribers&#8230;</p>
<p>Ironic?</p>
<p>I honestly hope I&#8217;m wrong, the genre needs some fresh air.</p>
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		<title>By: Knqui</title>
		<link>http://www.keenandgraev.com/?p=1102&#038;cpage=1#comment-14876</link>
		<dc:creator>Knqui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m gonna admit that I&#039;m not fanatical about WAR in any sense of the word, so I haven&#039;t been scouring the web trying to garner tidbits, but this is the first time I&#039;ve seen a gameplay video; where I can totally see myself playing this game.

That&#039;s a pretty big deal, while the show they were on was rubbish, this has put my hype notch up quite a few levels. Considering my disappointment of AoC, this could tear me away from my routine boredom of WoW/L2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m gonna admit that I&#8217;m not fanatical about WAR in any sense of the word, so I haven&#8217;t been scouring the web trying to garner tidbits, but this is the first time I&#8217;ve seen a gameplay video; where I can totally see myself playing this game.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a pretty big deal, while the show they were on was rubbish, this has put my hype notch up quite a few levels. Considering my disappointment of AoC, this could tear me away from my routine boredom of WoW/L2.</p>
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